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states. it's mixing apples and oranges. i i agree with jorge complete. it's a symmetrical relationship. >> charlie: what people emphasize about fid oal's leadership in cuba is the very same thing you've been emphasizing about hugo chavez. the very same ideas. >> i think what's different about it is that tube a is an authoritarian state. venezuela has elections. you can complain about lack of procedurallism in venezuela. the debate is wide open. what they did was... >> there's no comparison. cuba has been and will remain to be for practical purposes a dictatorship. venezuela is not. >> i think the electoral process was not democratic. >> you mean procedural? there's no death squad? nothing compared to... >> there's no comparison. charlie: who is the next chavez in latin america? >> it could be carriya of ecuador but the problem is that ecuador is a much smaller country than venezuela. it doesn't have nearly as much oil. but he's clearly a protege of hugo chavez and has the same rhetorical shoot from the hip style. it's somewhat mixed. i support some measures that he's undertaken. for ex
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